Have you had any dealings with Karl Taylor of Border Group UK Limited publishers of the TheCleaningSite.com?
We believe Karl Taylor has obtained money from a number of cleaning companies in the UK amongst other places offering to do sales training but has failed to provide the services promised.
We are looking for other cleaning companies that are in a similar position to ourselves
By becoming aware of just how many other people are owed money and or services by him and his company we will be able to use different strategies to get back our monies. Please go to our contact page and complete the form so we can all get together on the phone.
Hello
The experiences described on the blog is almost a mirror image of our own personal dealings with Karl Taylor: the initial contact and how he would provide expert sales training and secure x amount of guaranteed turnover. To cut a long story short, once he received the monies via BACS transfer, phone calls, emails and dates for visits were set and agreed. He was supposed to have taken a holiday (apparently delayed by a very handy ash cloud!) followed by a period without contact. Eventually, after a week or so, he did contact us with revised dates. Then, on 4th June, a week before the first of his proposed visits, a faxed doctor’s fit note appeared at the office citing ‘stress’ as the reason he would not be able to fulfill his obligations at that time. The very next day, a wordy letter arrived from him detailing personal problems, depression, family bereavements and the fact that he was talked out of retirement and did not really want to continue with the business and all that BS. He then went on to say that his absence would mean that he would not be able to carry out the services at that time but that companies could either wait for his return to work or seek a full refund of monies paid. We, of course, wrote back asking for a refund and did not hear anything for a few days until a lawyer’s letter (Lanyon Bowdler Solicitors) came in re-iterating the position on his ‘illness’ along with a statement ‘We confirm that our client is unable to make any refunds at this time as it is receiving no income and there are no funds available to make any refunds.’
This is where we are at the moment until we noticed this site. In short, we would be willing to do anything to put a stop to this man and hopefully, via the power of the mob, be in a strong position to take him on legally.
Hope to hear from you soon,
Jim Whelehan
I understand that complaints have been made to Trading Standards Officers in Coatbridge Scotland who cover a fairly wide area of Scotland and they are investigating paperwork further.
What surprised me was the offer of exclusive training was being offered at the same time to two different companies operating in the same area.
If you are aware of any other companies where this type of story has also been given please let us know and we will pass it on.
Our experience seems to mirror that of a lot of other people on this site in that we met him were impressed and paid the funds over. We then had the twelve weeks where he was supposed to get work for us but we had a range of excuses as to why he couldn’t do it. These included; his wifes mother was seriously ill, then she died and he had to arrange the funeral by himself, went away for a bank holiday weekend decided to stay away for an extra day, then miraculously hurt his back so couldn’t work, several times his servers were down and he couldn’t retrieve info., then just before the end of the twelve weeks he says his wife and some realtives have decided they need to take a break due to the stress caused by his mother-in-law’s death.
I eventually got hold of him a couple of weeks after this holiday and he promised my refund in writing by email, then he started coming up with excuses and finally the message from his solicitor saying that as he is unwell he is unable to do any work for the forseeable future and as the company has no income no refunds can be made.
I have waited several months and other than further attempts by him to scam me with other offers and opportunities which surely must show he is working?!?!?! We have had no further contact so with immediate effect we are calling in the debt collectors.
Yes we have all received those spam emails offering magic solutions to the problems being experienced by cleaning companies. I was speaking to a well known cleaning manager who told me they had been able to ban him from registering on their cleaning website on a few occasions but he simply comes back in with a different email address.
The initial ban was for stealing info from the site rewriting it very slightly and then selling it as his own work. I must admit I have seen some of the products he has sold to others and they do look remarkably like the info available on others peoples site.
I would challenge him publicly to come back and prove his work is his own. If he can show us proof that the work is his own we will refute our suggestion that he may have used it as a source for his work.
Come on Karl. Prove to us all that you are above board refund the money you have taken from these people and we will take down this site. Or do you really have something to hide from Trading Standards and the law.
I have spoken to a debt collection company today as promised they said he has 11 different companies that they found straight away all offering the same or similar services and one that he has just had dissolved by companies house. They reckoned it all points to a distinct pattern showing that he creates companies uses them for awhile and then closes them when things become to hot around it.
So his claim about having created x number of companies from scratch is true the bit that appears to be a lie is the selling of them.
Karl
Took £6500 from me stating that he would provide x amount of turnover within 3 months. He came to my home town and we met at a hotel where he shot the breeze with me. Guess what at the 3 month mark nothing had materlized , not one lousy contract. I am not a man to mince words so I essentialy told him if he did not produce my money I would be paying him a serious visit at his house to kick his head in ! he paid up (after sending me a
dodgy check ) in dribs and drabs. He is a con man !
14 February 2011
Just had a phone call from a man who runs a cleaning company in London. He has also been taken in by Taylor in the last week or so.
This man had paid half the money asked for by Taylor when he saw the postings on this site. He called me up tonight and was both relieved and pissed off! Pissed off that he had paid this conman some cash but relieved that he has limited the damage.
Be afraid! This shyster is still out there conning people out of their cash. Isn’t it about time someone called the fraud squad??
Andy Malloy
1000 pound he took of me went on holiday the week after.came back and started sending report out of what business he was trying to get me.
Hi,
I found this website http://www.killerquestion.thecleaningsite.com/ while was looking for the info on commercial cleaning business. Wanted to place an order straigt away is this site promises to provide the info we need, but decided to do it next day. Today, after searching for some more info I found your site and was shoked about the info revealed about K. Taylor. I am very glad I did not placed my order yesterday.
I wish i knew this website before I parted with £3000 to Karl for cleaning contracts. Up until date its been stories and letters. All that I’ve read here, he’s done to me.
What I don’t understand is why he’s still operating and taking money from people after all these while. Thanks for what you’re doing but I’m taking this further. I want JUSTICE by any chance and put a stop these Conmen who will take advantage of people genuinely trying to make something for their future!!!
Ripped off
I had paid up 3000 in April 2011 for a turnover, since then not heared any thing apart from today an email to say that due to ill health the company the cleaning site ltd going into receivership? i dont think i will get my money back
That was my saving over the years to start a small business but looks like all that will be lost to this conning man…bull story
Once again this conman strikes and no sign of the Police. Is he still using the same Solicitor ( David Marston Jones)?
I have now reported this IDIOT to the Fraud Prevention Squad, their phone number is – 0300 1232040.
When I phoned them they were very patient and understanding, it took around 45 minutes for the officer to take all the details about Karl Taylor and his antics, I was then given a crime number and a password and told that all the information was going to be passed on to the Metropolitan Police.
I would urge everyone to do the same as this nonsense has got to stop, and the only way that it’s going to stop is if we all phone this number and ask for Justice to be served.
Thank goodness for this site, I have been getting emails from Karl Taylor for months. I was very close to sending some money to get started. Then I decided to do some research by putting his name into Google and found this. I am one of the lucky ones but in answer to one of the posters on here “yes he is still operating and trying to get people to part with money”. I have emailed him today to say I am onto him do not want to receive anymore emails. Thanks everyone. I hope you all get justice from this conman.
It is sad that he such a man is allowed to walk free. He plans to wind up the cleaning site on 4 August and I am sure he will register another company and continue his scam. The proposed liquidator is Gerald Irwin,Irwin & Company, Statiion House, Midland Drive, Sutton Coldfiel B72 1TU. I intend to object to this winding up, and I wish many of his victims could do same
This man has a local pub in Oswestry Shropshire called the highway man he is in their most days he is usualy in their between 11 til 5 in the after noon braging hows he’s of to the maldives or barbados so if you lot would like your money back just go in their !
Thank goodness i checked this man out and he is not just ripping people of with these contracts he has got other websites as well such as (www.killerquestion.thecleaning.com) and i do know where this man spends the time of day its in the highway man public house in a place called Oswestry in shropshire in a small market town just on the border of wales so i think i will be paying him a visit !
It’s high time we got this man to face the law and get our money back.If you want to be a part of a team that will track him dowm,please contact me on ……Lets work as a team please.
Be aware, I have just received an email from ‘our mutual friend’
Karl Taylor detailing another get rich quick scam. Please copy and paste the link below to your browser.
REMEMBER, DO NOT GIVE HIM ANY MONEY!!!!
http://www.mobilecashdynamite.internetincomewealth.com
Be aware, I have just received an email from \’our mutual friend\’
Karl Taylor detailing another get rich quick scam. Please copy and paste the link below to your browser to see what he’s up to now.
REMEMBER, DO NOT GIVE HIM ANY MONEY!!!!
http://www.mobilecashdynamite.internetincomewealth.com
I wish this site was around before i handed over £1000. he said he would find me contracts but guess what – no contracts! I have even filed for small claims court to get my money back but i still haven’t got it because he said he has no money but yet the company is still running and he can afford to email away on his blackberry every second, i am sure he has money. Also what i want to know – is he really sick because that is what he is saying now??
I wish this site was around before i handed over £1000. he said he would find me contracts but guess what – no contracts! I have even filed for small claims court to get my money back but i still haven\’t got it because he said he has no money but yet the company is still running and he can afford to email away on his blackberry every second, i am sure he has money. Also what i want to know – is he really sick because that is what he is saying now??
I had the same experience as Jim Whelan, almost word for word, including the sick note & solicitors letter!
Lost thousands, he even asked me to rush the money through so that I would be guaranteed his time immediately, then a few days later I get the letter saying everything has gone wrong, can’t work & can’t pay me back! He knew exactly what he was doing when he took my money.